Discussion - What changes should we consider for 2022-2023

[Steve]

This is open to anyone who wants to discuss possible changes for the 2022-2023 season.

[hhorsman]

I would like to see if anyone would be interested in going with one goalie roster spot instead of two.This way it would be a little easier to have a quality keeper as you wouldn’t need to carry so many to get your three starts and you could drop down to two starts per week.Just putting it out there.What are the groups thoughts?

[hhorsman]

Therefore less demand equals less cost.

[Deleted]

Here is a suggestion that I have brought up the last several years and it was implemented partially a few years back but bump up the farm eligibility for goalies to 100 games or less like the forwards.

[Moose]

I like Hazen's idea to go with 1 starting goalie roster spot. I'd take it a little further and reduce the minimum appearances down to 2 per week from 3.

To keep roster numbers the same, I'd like to see a utility roster spot replace the removed goalie roster spot.

[Deleted]

Not sure what other goalie changes are envisioned based on Steve's earlier post on ProBoards today but my thoughts are it should be left the same as per the current rules over the last 8+ years. Teams have made moves for goalies (large deals specifically over the last few years) where changing the current rules (i.e. roster spots, weekly starts, stats etc.) would diminish these deals/moves and only benefit those teams that lack in goalie positions/stats etc. Goalies slots/stats are the most important positions in fantasy leagues because there are a finite number of goalies - good goalies and therefore such deals should reflect this requirement.

Another item I would like to bring up for discussion is some sort of penalty for GM's not having a competitive line-up due to not having enough goalie starts for the week and forfeiting all of their goalie categories to the opposing GM. I am not talking about a week where a GM is dealing with injuries/scheduling etc., I am referring to a period of several weeks were a GM is not utilizing his farm system or trying to make moves to improve his team/goalie position and/or trading away a starting goalie to further restrict his weekly starts. This is a loop-hole in Yahoo/GMHL that allows GM's to tank (lack of a better reference) to possibly gain better draft picks in the following year and is a determent to the leagues integrity in my opinion. Not sure how the rules could be changed or what penalties could be used to implement the above but it should be discussed further (once again not referring to changes to the current goalie rules, stats, weekly starts etc.).

Thanks,

[Deleted]

Maybe extend the regular season an extra week? There are still two weeks of the NHL season and our league is already done?

[Deleted]

We couldn’t do it for 22-23, but possible expansion for 23-24 or 24-25

[Deleted]

I actually agree with Andrew on one thing… lol. I don’t think we should mess with the goalie starts/roster. There are 32 NHL teams so 32 starts, plus a number of teams that roll with 1a/1b situations so there’s enough starts to go around for a 14 team league. If we ever decide to expand the league, I think we could flirt with that idea.

[Deleted]

I think the farm system is good as is. Some managers use it to get those extra games played during the week and others use it for actual prospects in hopes that they develop so I believe it would be a slippery slope if we punished managers based on how they use their farm teams

[Anth]

Apr 21, 2022 18:11:36 GMT -5 @ducksfan1926 said:

We couldn’t do it for 22-23, but possible expansion for 23-24 or 24-25

I love expansion to 16 Lucas! exactly half the NHL rosters.

[Anth]

Great points Lucas.

[Stu]

Apr 21, 2022 18:11:36 GMT -5 @ducksfan1926 said:

We couldn’t do it for 22-23, but possible expansion for 23-24 or 24-25

Definitely no to 22-23 cause then u may not have the first overall pick, LOL!!!

[Steve]

Glenn, Anth and I completed a zoom meeting a short time ago and we've decided that we want to make a few minor tweaks to how the league is run.

I know that goalies are always a bit of a controversial subject. We do note that there are a few GMs who have invested quite heavily in shoring up their goaltending over the past few years. On the other hand, there is distinct lack of goaltenders that are available as free agents in the league.

Trading should always be your number one option to improving your goaltending; yes, it is going to be expensive, but paying up is what you're going to need to do to compete. Ryan is proof of that as his acquisition of Sorokin contributed greatly to his championship season.

The goalie categories and roster positions will stay the same; that is, we will keep all 5 goalie categories: W, GAA, SV, SV% and SHO, and, we will keep 2 rostered goalie slots, and a minimum of 3 goalie appearances per week.

Here is the proposal for goaltending in the league; we're going to ask you to vote on 1 of the 2 options presented:

1. Each team is allowed a maximum of 9 goaltenders on their team at any one time (doesn't include any goalie on IR+) with no more than 4 that are pro goalies.

2. Each team is allowed to have a maximum of 4 goalies (doesn't include any goalie on IR+) on their Yahoo roster at any one time.

A simple majority will carry the vote - I will post this vote soon.

We're also looking at implementing a minor change regarding goalie appearances. Each GM is expected to meet their minimum of 3 goalie appearances each match. If you continually do not meet your minimum goalie appearances, you will be penalized. The penalty is: your top draft pick for next summer will drop 2 places; for example, if your top pick was 10th overall, the imposed penalty would mean that your 1st round pick would now be 12th overall.

Now there will be legitimate circumstances where a GM may not be unable to meet their minimum goalie appearances; therefore, the co-commissioners will look at any occurrences on a case-by-case basis before undertaking any further action.

If further action is warranted, on the first occasion that this happens, the GM who did not meet the minimum requirement will receive a warning. On a second occurrence, another warning will be given and the GM will be advised that if it happens again, the penalty will be imposed.

The only other minor change is that we're going back to 4 IR+ slots in the G. If COVID-19 raises its ugly head again next season, we may look at increasing the IR+ to 5 again.

We did consider all the other ideas that were brought up, but don't believe they warrant further discussion at this time.

I would like to thank all GMs who brought forth suggestions and everyone for their patience in waiting for this post.