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Post by Steve on Sept 8, 2019 19:20:42 GMT -5
All teams must be roster compliant by Saturday September 28, at 12:00 EDT. This means no more than 47 players on your roster of which no more than 27 are designated as pro players.
If a player is listed on Yahoo as IR+ or out, you can place players into these slots and still be roster compliant. There is, however, one exception to this. If the player is an unsigned RFA; that is, if Marner, Point, Rantanen, and others, have not signed a contract, than you cannot carry them on your roster as IR+.
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Post by Anth on Sept 9, 2019 6:39:56 GMT -5
I really like the RFA caveat Steve!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 19:11:07 GMT -5
We really need to change this. Managers having multiple guys in free agency just to hoard them until the end of camp and hope someone starts the season on IR or try and move them before the drop date. Teams should be roster compliant before the draft or at the latest before Yahoo opens.
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Post by Steve on Sept 10, 2019 12:29:53 GMT -5
We really need to change this. Managers having multiple guys in free agency just to hoard them until the end of camp and hope someone starts the season on IR or try and move them before the drop date. Teams should be roster compliant before the draft or at the latest before Yahoo opens. Thanks for your comments Lucas; you do raise some valid points here that I would like to address. All GMs must become roster compliant within two weeks of the NHL regular season ending. Every team starts off the new upcoming season with a full roster and no players are allowed to be on IR+. Throughout the summer and the Entry Draft, most teams acquire additional assets that put them over the 47/27 player limit. I've always done this on purpose, because additional assets allow a GM to perhaps include an extra player that may be necessary to sweeten a deal and complete a trade. Additionally, I don't see much sense in having a team drop a prospect for every prospect they select in the draft. Many GMs use the extra picks to help with their rebuild as they trade for other assets or package a number of prospects for an established player. Since we always have our roster compliance date set for the Saturday before the regular NHL season begins, all excess players that are dropped are available to pick up as a free agent prior to the season beginning without it costing a GM 1 of their 20 free agent acquisitions that they are limited to in a season. I currently have 46 players on my team. If one of my players goes on IR+ prior to the season starting, I can pick up a free agent now to replace my injured player or I can wait until after the roster compliance date to add an injury replacement player. I believe that allowing GMs to keep extra players on their rosters as long as possible before the season starts gives a GM more options to field the most competitive team they possibly can. Unless there is a groundswell from the other GMs to change how we do things now in the offseason, I don't see any reason to make changes like you suggested. We can revisit this in the offseason should some of the other GMs believe a vote on a possible change be necessary. Comments welcomed!
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Post by Steve on Sept 10, 2019 18:25:42 GMT -5
For all GMs: if you want to go ahead and place some of your players that are out on IR+, you can go ahead and do so. Just be aware that by September 28, 2019, if a player you have on IR+ is no longer injured or if he is an unsigned RFA, you will have to take that player off of IR+.
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Post by Steve on Sept 10, 2019 18:33:04 GMT -5
For those GMs that are already over the roster limit for the season, you can only add up to a maximum of 51 players on your team. If your roster is already at 49 players, you can only put 2 players on IR+. The reason being, I don't want this to get out of hand.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 19:41:56 GMT -5
I'm all for not dropping someone for a prospect during a draft, etc.
My main concern is the main roster compliance. My suggestion is to cut your pro roster down to the 27 amount by the time we open Yahoo. That still gives teams plenty of time to move guys who have lost farm eligibility, etc.
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Post by Anth on Sept 10, 2019 20:46:44 GMT -5
Both are fair requests / policies Steve.
Lucas, i also agree with you..but i believe that is already the case, no? 27 by compliance deadline? Then if you have say 2 guys on IR, you can officially replace them with 2 temporary adds after the compliance deadline passes.
Steve-- do i have it right?
Thanks, Anthony
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Post by Steve on Sept 11, 2019 5:05:50 GMT -5
I'm all for not dropping someone for a prospect during a draft, etc. My main concern is the main roster compliance. My suggestion is to cut your pro roster down to the 27 amount by the time we open Yahoo. That still gives teams plenty of time to move guys who have lost farm eligibility, etc. Whether we continue the way we do things now or adapt to you suggestion Lucas, the way I see it, we are only weighing the option of cutting down on the pro players when the league comes up (or perhaps say September 1) to 27 pro players or allowing a GM to keep all of his options open regarding cuts until the Saturday before the season opens. I've always gone with leaving decisions like this in the hands of the GMs as late as possible. If we go with your option, then some players, most of whom likely won't make too much of a difference to your team, you will have more choices available immediately. If we stick with the status quo, you still have the opportunity to add players before the NHL season begins. I'd rather let a GM sit on a player and so that once their through the training camp or at least near the end of the camp they can make a more informed choice. Some GMs would like to sit on a Marleau as a possible 4th/5th player option on their team and hope he gets picked up rather than drop him and see him on another team. We can revisit this in the off season Lucas. If the majority of voters want an earlier date to cut back on the pros, then so be it. As to your comment Anth, you can put any player that Yahoo lists as out or injured reserve on IR+ now and carry them through the roster compliance date. So, if you have 4 players you can put on IR+ now, you can carry them there right through September 28, 2019, provided that they are still out/injured at that time and they are not an RFA without a contract. If you are putting players on IR+, your maximum roster size would be 51 players. If the, roster page shows you currently at 53 players, like Edmonton, you can't add any additional players for anyone you put on IR+.
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Post by Anth on Sept 11, 2019 9:13:43 GMT -5
Got it. I thought we could only exceed 47 via placement of IR+ eligible players **after** the compliance deadline. Good to know we can do so now. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 17:24:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not trying to make any changes right now. Just putting my two cents out there so we can discuss for next season.
If these players "likely won't make too much of a difference to your team" why not cut bait with them when we open up Yahoo? One man's trash is another's treasure and for some teams they could have interest in certain guys that are being hoarded by another team.
I know this is the way it has been forever, but I'm just trying to cut some of the fat. I know for me, sometimes I only look at our league on my phone and if I see a veteran guy available on my Yahoo app, I don't have the luxury to CTRL+F our roster page on here to see if he is actually owned (Tim Cook, I know you are spying on this page, put this on the next iPhone). Then you have to go and fix the mistake. So my suggestion is really more for cutting out some of the tedious work because in reality, these guys will probably be dropped by the end of September anyway
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Post by Anth on Sept 12, 2019 7:30:19 GMT -5
Hey Lucas, unless you have a flip phone (lol) you can easily search the roster page from a cell phone. Regardless of Make, you generally hit "options" or "3 dots" and select "Find on Page". I personally bookmark the roster page. Extremely easy to do from mobile device
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 13:38:38 GMT -5
That through safari or the app?
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Post by Anth on Sept 13, 2019 15:38:59 GMT -5
LOL Safari - The whole world doesn't use Apple. But seriously yes, that's the mobile website browser. Try this link - thegmhl.proboards.com/thread/2/team-rosters?page=1&scrollTo=2 Note: I'm on the desktop currently. If that doesn't work for you. I will re-send a link from my mobile browser. Works like a charm to search quickly on a given webpage.
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Post by Anth on Sept 20, 2019 9:47:13 GMT -5
All teams must be roster compliant by Saturday September 28, at 12:00 EDT. This means no more than 47 players on your roster of which no more than 27 are designated as pro players. If a player is listed on Yahoo as IR+ or out, you can place players into these slots and still be roster compliant. There is, however, one exception to this. If the player is an unsigned RFA; that is, if Marner, Point, Rantanen, and others, have not signed a contract, than you cannot carry them on your roster as IR+. As a reminder guys, as i read this as the compliancy deadline actually being Friday the 27th at 11:59:59 PM ET. for night owls like me, it's not really a Saturday deadline lol (just technically)
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Post by Steve on Sept 20, 2019 9:50:09 GMT -5
For clarification on Anth's post, this would be 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday.
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Post by Anth on Sept 20, 2019 10:18:45 GMT -5
Big difference. Thanks for the verification pal.
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Post by Steve on Sept 20, 2019 15:51:13 GMT -5
All teams must be roster compliant by Saturday September 28, at 12:00 EDT. This means no more than 47 players on your roster of which no more than 27 are designated as pro players. If a player is listed on Yahoo as IR+ or out, you can place players into these slots and still be roster compliant. There is, however, one exception to this. If the player is an unsigned RFA; that is, if Marner, Point, Rantanen, and others, have not signed a contract, than you cannot carry them on your roster as IR+. Another addition to this list of players who cannot be carried on a roster as IR+ would be Byfuglien. He is not injured and therefore is not eligible to be carried on a roster as IR+. Any other player in a similar situation to Byfuglien who chooses to contemplate his future, also will not be eligible for IR+.
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Post by Anth on Sept 20, 2019 23:32:21 GMT -5
Complied now
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