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Post by Steve on Apr 7, 2019 19:43:20 GMT -5
I would like to thank all GMs for another highly successful season here in the G. I hope everyone enjoyed this season, our 7th overall here on Yahoo.
Anth had a chip on his shoulder, albeit a potato chip, as he wasn't too happy with his 9th place finish in 2018. He parlayed a 14-week unbeaten streak and finished 1st overall in the regular season.
Hazen shook off his poor start of 4 losses in 5 weeks and turned it around completely. After a see-saw battle with Stu's suddenly hot kingslayers team, who soundly thrashed the #1 and #2 seeds, Hazen managed to hold off Stu in the final in a close battle to become the G's new champion.
For next year, I've decided to end the mini-competition. I find it is quite a lot of work and I'm second guessing the logic behind holding the mini-competition. It seems that the winner of this mini-competition is usually one of the top teams that miss the playoffs. I think it is better to award that prize money to the consolation winner instead as I think it is more appropriate that a playoff team eliminated in the 1st round still has a chance to win some prize money. After all, they worked hard to make the playoffs and only lost one playoff round as the consolation round winner.
I've had a few GMs approach me and ask if we would consider some changes.
If anyone has anything they want to have considered for a change, please list it below.
We're going to consider the following:
- Should PIMs, SO, and +/- be dropped as categories?
- Should the maximum of 10 moves a week be lowered to 7?
- Should each team be limited to 2 FA acquisitions per week (this would limit new players added to your team to 2 per week)?
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Post by hhorsman on Apr 7, 2019 20:39:44 GMT -5
In my opinion PIMs could go but I do like the plus/ minus.It makes picking your team more of challenge.
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Post by Anth on Apr 8, 2019 6:45:05 GMT -5
If yahoo adds advanced stats for hockey )just started w/ MLB), I'd rather see PDO than +/-. I definitely prefer to see PIM & SO go. Former already covered by Hits.. Which is a positive category. PIMs are negative. SO, far too scarce to be an effective weekly stay counter IMO. I like 10 moves / Week, but new cap of 2 new player adds/week. Prevents streaming in the playoffs or final reg season push to get in. Like the idea of being rewarded callups after investing time in the right prospects to make their way up to the bigs.
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Post by Steve on Apr 8, 2019 18:01:18 GMT -5
If yahoo adds advanced stats for hockey )just started w/ MLB), I'd rather see PDO than +/-. I definitely prefer to see PIM & SO go. Former already covered by Hits.. Which is a positive category. PIMs are negative. SO, far too scarce to be an effective weekly stay counter IMO. I like 10 moves / Week, but new cap of 2 new player adds/week. Prevents streaming in the playoffs or final reg season push to get in. Like the idea of being rewarded callups after investing time in the right prospects to make their way up to the bigs. I realize that you're using PDO as an example here, but from what I understand, PDO is more a measurement of puck luck than anything else and is probably best used when trying to trade for a player with a low PDO or dumping a player with high PDO, but to me, probably not something I'm too interested in putting in as a category. Something like Corsi For percentage, CF%, might be better to look at as it tracks how well a player drives possession. To be honest, I don't know how interested the GMs in this league would be in using advanced stats for additional categories. Speaking for myself, I would rather keep it simpler than not rather than have to become an expert in advanced stats as well. Maybe I'm being a bit of a luddite here, but I see advanced stats as taking the fun out of what is essentially a fun league. It is competitive as hell here mind you, but at this stage, I can only try and keep an open mind about advanced stats as a category or two we should consider sometime in the future. I do see your point though Anth about why we could possibly look at something else other than +/-. Thanks for your feedback and suggestions. |
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Post by Anth on Apr 8, 2019 19:27:56 GMT -5
Fair feedback!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 20:20:49 GMT -5
I say we leave the league as is. All GM's are accustomed to these rules over the last few years and have based there team structure on such rules and stat categories. I don't see a reason or need to try to change stat categories or rules every year unless there is a glaring loop hole that allows an unfair advantage.
Leave +/-. SO and PIM's as stats as these are viable stat categories tracked by the NHL. Leave the max moves per week to 10 with a max 20 FA acquisitions per year based on the current rules and regulations.
Speaking personally for myself, its rather hard to manage a team and sign/acquire players to improve your team and forecast for the future when stat categories are always changing. The point of this league is to be competitive which means being able to structure your team to cover various stat categories and not just points or standard goalie categories. If anything, I say we expand the stat categories to cover Game Winning Goals again and adjust farm eligibility to 100 games regardless of position.
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Post by Whalers on Apr 8, 2019 20:29:03 GMT -5
Im pretty much with Andrew right here
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Post by Steve on Apr 9, 2019 19:41:07 GMT -5
I say we leave the league as is. All GM's are accustomed to these rules over the last few years and have based there team structure on such rules and stat categories. I don't see a reason or need to try to change stat categories or rules every year unless there is a glaring loop hole that allows an unfair advantage. Leave +/-. SO and PIM's as stats as these are viable stat categories tracked by the NHL. Leave the max moves per week to 10 with a max 20 FA acquisitions per year based on the current rules and regulations. Speaking personally for myself, its rather hard to manage a team and sign/acquire players to improve your team and forecast for the future when stat categories are always changing. The point of this league is to be competitive which means being able to structure your team to cover various stat categories and not just points or standard goalie categories. If anything, I say we expand the stat categories to cover Game Winning Goals again and adjust farm eligibility to 100 games regardless of position. Thanks for your input, Andrew. Just so everyone knows, we haven't voted on anything for 2 years and we really haven't voted to change any categories since April 2015 when FW replaced GWG and we put a maximum of 10 moves per week in place to limit streaming. For the most part, we've maintained the status quo. We've had a number of different votes, but most GMs have not wanted any changes. As GMs come and go I believe that every now and then we have to consider possible changes to the categories we have so that the new GMs have a say in how the league is run and what categories should be included in our scoring. 6 of the GMs that were in place for the 2014-15 season, after which we had our vote, are no longer with us and there have been at least 4 other GMs that have come and gone since then. IMO, that is reason enough to consider what these new GMs think is best for the league. Now if we do end up dropping SO, for example, I don't think that impacts the way anyone has structured their team. This doesn't hold true for PIMs or +/-, but it isn't like you can't adjust easily enough if either of those categories are voted out. I would be surprised if anything changes because past votes on proposals are almost always defeated. I won't be in favour of revisiting a vote for any of these 3 categories for the next few years unless there is a significant turnover in the GMs in the league. I would say a significant turnover would be 5 to 6 new GMs. I would encourage everyone to vote because it is your collective decision that will determine if we keep these categories or not. |
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Post by Anth on Apr 9, 2019 21:24:15 GMT -5
To Andrew's point ..we could postpone any voted change(s) to be implemented the season after next ..so there is a 1 year preparation buffer.
As for GWG...lets not get me started how silly a stat that is. But I digress.
Also steve is bang-on with waiting until significant turnover before voting
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Post by Steve on Apr 20, 2019 16:33:00 GMT -5
Thanks to everybody for voting. This is the first time that everyone has voted on all proposals.
You told me that you want to leave all the categories we have in place. We will not be holding any votes for categories for a few years unless Yahoo adds some categories that we may want to consider adding. Otherwise, unless there is a groundswell of support of GMs that want a change, we won't e revisiting a vote on the categories for the foreseeable future.
The only thing that will change is that beginning with the upcoming 2019-2020 season, all GMs will be limited to a maximum of 2 new player acquisitions per weekly matchup. You can still make 10 moves in a week, but no more than 2 new player adds.
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